At half past ten on May 26, for operator adjustment of restructuring and the latest appointment of executives, Sina science and technology professor at the University of Posts and Telecommunications Beijing Song Junde invited guest chat.
Guest Introduction:
Professor Song Junde, PhD supervisor. Electronic Engineering, Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications is currently the Academic Council Director, Chairman of China Communications Standards Association, CMIS, honorary Doctor of the Moscow Institute of Electronic Engineering, the State Council Academic Degree Committee disciplinary assessment team members, the State Ministry of Personnel postdoctoral accreditation experts, the international information Federation of IFIP TC7 Chinese President, Information Ministry of Communications Science and Technology Industry Committee members and the satellite and radio consultants, China Communications Standards Association Expert Advisory Committee of experts, China Computer Federation and the data communication network, deputy director of the Committee. Ministry of Information Industry and ministerial key laboratories PCN & CAD Center and CTI Research Centre, Beijing served as the Chairman of the Committee of Posts and Telecommunications large school degree, graduate school dean and other staff.
He visited the United States and more than 30 countries, cooperation in scientific research and teaching. He has won first prize in a national scientific and technological progress. State Education Commission, Ministry of Science and Technology Progress Award the electronic one. And take a number of 863, the National Natural Science Foundation, science and technology research and international cooperation and other major projects. In the mobile communications and the Internet, the future of communications, CTI / CRM, VLSI CAD field of nearly 200 published papers (in English and Chinese well-known Science, Technology). Books and Teaching Materials 13. His current research focus is the next generation of wireless mobile Internet theory and technology (3G, B3G, 4G, WIFI, WiMAX) and other aspects of research. His research interests also include next-generation telecommunications network and its supporting systems and related services, heterogeneous networks.
Record the following for the interview:
Host: User Hello, everybody! May 23 reorganization and executive operator adjustment programs was released on May 24 officially announced the three ministries to encourage operators of adequate documentation. Today, operators have also issued five bulletins, formal confirmation about restructuring, a major topic for the important guests we invited to interview, this is the Ministry of Information Communication Technology Committee member, Chairman of China Communications Standards Association CMIS, Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications Mr. Song Junde, we call upon Professor Song with good friends asked.
SONG Jun-de: User Good morning!
Moderator: Professor Song is one of China's leading telecom experts, we had often invited Professor Song guest chat, and many users are familiar with Professor Song. Today, we chat's topic is a larger topic, and very interesting topic, we first would like to ask you how this telecom restructuring plan to see? Because about six variable 3, variable 3, said five also lines you an overall evaluation?
SONG Jun-de: I think the overall assessment of China's information industry and communication industry is a good thing, called long drought rains, we are expecting in 2023 because the Chinese do not impede restructuring of the telecommunications and information industries, so This time re-affirmed after the ICT industry in our country have a positive impact. Specifically, of course, very lively discussion of these two days, the experts are to express their views, here are my views. I think that this reorganization is at least three new China Unicom, SingTel, the three new mobile is beneficial for them, but the best should be the China Unicom, times should be beneficial to China Telecom, there is little benefit is move, but some people say that China Mobile to suffer through the restructuring of its accounting for less cheap.
Unicom had plagued its development is, in fact, very good business strategy Unicom, profit is also very good, very good company, left CDMA, right GSM, not the operation of two of its own network. The reorganization is the first solution to this problem, the CDMA sold to China Telecom, to sell no matter how much money he had received a large cash flow. He won the second GSM network, and those with three licenses, then we naturally think of a WCDMA, without excessive government intervention, in accordance with the WCDMA technology is natural, and in the operation of the global WCDMA is the best, its market coverage The company is the world's No. 1 operator, the customer is first. From this perspective, it is from GSM to WCDMA, until now FBD the road is smooth, from a technical point of view a development perspective, from a financial point of view, to solve it from the point of distress, and a combination of it and Netcom. Netcom brings a fixed network, while China Netcom has already done a lot of solid broadband Internet applications, mobile and fixed network convergence is his wish for. China Unicom told myself I had the whole business, in fact, Tianjin and Chongqing have fixed the other not, but now mobile and fixed network operators. China Unicom has also been done FMC is the fixed, mobile big issue, you can now realize, after implementation can bring many benefits to the people.
China Telecom, the second I say. China Telecom expects mobile license for many years, executives said that as long as they give me to move the license no matter what I pleased. They are CDMA, CDMA has also developed well, it has the advantage of the transition to CDMA to CDMA2000, then develop it further negotiation if it is well down the technical compatibility, it rose to 3G from 2G costs are smaller, did not change significantly. The CDMA2000 its biggest feature on the notebook inside, and now we all like to use the Unicom CDMA card known as more than 150 K, but not more than 150 CDMA2000 to the K to the megabyte, so it is more than what customers around the world, it simply asked notebook involved in a relationship of wireless cards. China Telecom, of course not satisfied with this, it is certainly taking over the entire wireless phones, CDMA phones are also allowed, which China Telecom also has a good, fixed and mobile network integration. China Telecom's capital is also strong in the past, technical force is also strong, but delayed a bit the past two years, and China Mobile distance widened a bit, he got he would take off after this network, and speed.
Why do I say that China Mobile is also still a small profit, is to give it a Railcom, China Mobile eager fixed no matter what this camera, China Mobile also want to engage in the core network, backbone network, but many places to rent someone else's, Rent Netcom, China Telecom, and even CRC, he has not completely fixed build, Railcom to the main railway line in accordance with, and I say is, look to the future benefits will be more of three somewhat different.
Moderator: the starting point and the strength of the three operators is a bit different, and now some people worry that the formation of two-three competition or a weak situation, how do you see?
SONG Jun-de: You say China Telecom and China Mobile?
Moderator: Mobile significant strength to higher even after the merger of China Unicom and Netcom, the strength or stronger?
SONG Jun-de: I think so, China Mobile, according to the present situation it is to get TD-SCDMA, which give the state to make some contribution, it is now spent some 140 million, some say 200 billion. China Mobile wants me to give it ideas, I think it should go to international competition, the Chinese market that it already has a significant, and it should show it to those funds, I think it had to protect the SAC does not dismantle one of these it purpose, I guess it should become the world's largest communications company, it should go abroad to carry out some co-operators, it should do these things. Another positive for the country to do it TDSCDMA contribution, which has a need to support the process, which is technically required to support the application need to support investment to some money, this is a process. In the future allocation of 3G, I still have the point of view, the most favorable of the new China Unicom, the second telecommunications, the third is China Mobile. But bargain-hunting in China Mobile, it and the foreign people say I do TDD-LTE, so the 3.5G, 3.9G copied the place to live, and then there is 5 years and 9 years.
According to the documents that we are finished re-started after issuance of a license, the newspaper did not say how much time re-finished, some people say 3 months, I guess not so fast, but their combination of the following early on, China Telecom and CDMA exchange of technical cooperation carried out early, so do not count this time inside, this I think mainly the leadership position, so that they quickly got their new position, you have its own, new broom sweeps clean, always a little new tactics.
Moderator: the corporate culture, the new China Unicom is the "eight-" telecommunications, mobile are relatively pure, it is not stronger in this together?
SONG Jun-de: Because the birth of China Unicom's earlier history, the beginning of each province, China Unicom is the branch up, but then after Yang Xianzu his past played an important role, the entire culture of China Unicom, leading telecommunications system in accordance with the command to listen on the lower level, unification listening password, making great progress in China Unicom. And this year is definitely operating profit Unicom is not high, but it increased the rate, in this context it is operating so well, and leadership are related.
In addition Netcom, Netcom gotta find a place and fixed combination, and China Unicom now has more weight Telecom taste, you can see China Unicom's team, the original old telecommunications proportion in which a high, so it Netcom integration should be no, I do not think very pessimistic. China Telecom is also a problem, rather heavy burden that people have been assigned to these problems is the third industry, Unicom out of traveling light, mobile traveling light, it was not lightly armed to stay in them here, they are very hard the past few years.
Unicom is bound to fixed and mobile convergence, but the leadership of the system may be clear in a short time or a chain of command, I think so, but now there is no way. You are talking about what a great two small, no way, now the time has gone wrong, when two years ago, China Telecom and China Mobile is still relatively close, you can click here to support, and now China Mobile went up in recent years , and how do you go, If we do not set this distance is widened, then there must be a loss of the past few years China Telecom, the information is very painful, watching the old can not do good things, 3G license in our country Which country should start earlier than that, WCDMA are fitted well, then we cut it, now push TD and anxious, to get before the Olympics, many technical problems to resolve in this time, information and communication on such a situation, it is now conditioning conditioning, this competition down the situation better than before.
Moderator: At least we have a objective.
SONG Jun-de: a goal, they see a future in the past see the future, I cut down the fixed account, telephone charges down by, and you do not give me the policy, this case you can give him the full service operation, you have a bayonet I a bayonet, you have a rifle I have a rifle, so we can play again.
Moderator: This must be the total amount to be increased in the telecommunications industry, the three operators have a chance, otherwise, not a rush of China Telecom China Unicom's job?
SONG Jun-de: 3G license is issued so the sooner the better things, so we can expand the business. Real big profit is the enterprise network, broadband, multimedia stuff, entertainment, videos of these things. Such as the earthquake, the phone is very happy, if through the video to see a good home, he is not a relief. In addition, many people after the earthquake mental illness, this time we give him what cell phone with multimedia, broadcasting some good movies to help him recuperate, this is going to do later in telecommunications, and this value is useful in improving the No 3G is not enough. We kill each other light in the telephone, the assassination of the last years, we suffered a crushing defeat. Why laptop can go from year to year decline in production from year to year also, because it has new things, information and communication is not should be. As I offer you free food, free your bread, I Caichao becoming more and more distinctive, more good, so to increase my income, no matter 3G licenses which do not.
Moderator: Some have expressed concern that the annexation of the three operators will not be truly integrated into the new environment to go, because previous work includes, corporate culture, and personnel changes will affect many. This operator and China Mobile advanced operators which such high hopes and the future if not met very disappointed, how to do that? And China Railcom heavy burden, asset coverage, nothing really to accept, to be sure staff be laid off?
SONG Jun-de: This from a global perspective, one is certain to play a number of bottles and jars, together for a long time to divide, long period of division, annexation, purchase is very painful, coming after the culture is different. Overall, the new mobile with CRC, CRC certainly technically, the network management, network operation experience definitely worse than the old Mobile, China Railcom has its characteristics, it is something around the railway lines do very solid, in-depth China Mobile to fixed-line fixed inside to talk to the integration of telecommunications with the new, then a test with China Unicom, Railcom's fixed-line is also very valuable. So I decided to tell you the key leadership skills, leadership wisdom, you are 1 plus 1 equals 3, or 1 plus 1 equals 2, equal to 1.5, so I would like to acknowledge unsuccessful. Chinese culture is such, buddy separation will fight, but my good friends together, not so easy. But take the current business philosophy, we are facing our economy, they are all state-owned enterprises, they should be responsible citizens, we have state-owned assets to them, and they give us good business, he must have a sense of responsibility.
Moderator: Do you predict will not be laid off?
SONG Jun-de: the words were talking a lot of people unhappy, adjustment is positive, but after adjustment in accordance with the characteristics of socialist countries will give you arrange, you see how good we have earthquakes, this employee did contribute, he is not guilty What is wrong, he is because you changed the business model and see what he is more suitable, or to his other positions, there will be no great harm.
Moderator: No clear cuts, you adjust the position you are unwilling to stay inappropriate.
SONG Jun-de: We certainly do not know the State Department's policy, you see that this time the concept of the State Council ministries and large not the same as in the past, big ministries are combined but not the talent to reduce personnel, because these people are very valuable, our country is lack of talent or .
Moderator: three new operators, staff very much, I think each of them 400 000.
SONG Jun-de: Up or China Telecom, China Mobile Do not look so big it has been in control, China Unicom is controlled, they have been traveling light, Netcom, a little more. However, some of them are stripped away, what the tertiary industry, because the listing to peel.
Moderator: No wonder Netcom less mobile workers better than income, but also because fewer personnel.
SONG Jun-de: it is more attention to this, and it does not burden the older retirees, this, and China Telecom, Netcom not the same, which most people had to stay in telecommunications.
Moderator: how you look at the satellite, although the small operators.
SONG Jun-de: the satellite is imagine is not thought of the satellite Ruixiao Wu, general manager came and took over two satellites, many people think that we must strengthen the national satellite. The earthquake on the look out, we are on the ground, floods to hit the ground, frozen ground attack too, but it can not attack above the satellite, the satellite communication is very important. In addition to this the satellite itself is not necessarily the original, it had a soft exchange, there is a cluster, there is a bit IP phones, as operators in terms of its integrity not only will it peel, peeling is a promising future, not get the old one in that place. Of course, now the satellite to the space, I do not know how it is like the way they operate, and the telecommunications sector is not the same? Slowly lower prices so people can afford to use, you see a place we had a few earthquakes very poor phone, it should be somewhat popular, the satellite first breaking in should be but our country is too expensive, can not develop.
Moderator: Other clusters such as digital, certainly, and to China Telecom.
SONG Jun-de: the satellite was no other business, he wanted to do anything else at that time, later said to die, it can only do so fleet. He was no other significant, so soft switching, do IP telephony, he rent someone else's telephone network is the result of a surrendered up losing money, IP phone a lot of money, so there is a re-arrangement of China Satcom the.
Moderator: The next discussion of a topic, you think China Mobile is not necessarily taking TD-SCDMA license?
SONG Jun-de: It can not say that it funds is also strong, it can also support China's brand, this thing will take a little money, it should do, how it does not do this three licenses issued it?
Moderator: It was a 3 license?
SONG Jun-de: newspaper said. Optical carriers are discussing is not the purpose of the current restructuring, reorganization greatest goal was to stimulate an industry, we go back 45 years ago, we imagine, when we discuss the 3G, China, Why the 3G, 3G in China has little incentive? Television that bring 10 trillion value of 3G, I do not understand the economy out of these operators do not know how, but you can see the information industry, telecommunications sure to have a raise. China linkage GSM, CDMA sell him to get the money, he sold the money necessary to invest in network upgrade should do 3G, WCDMA done very beautiful, a lot of web shop is not licensed. There CITIC, Huawei and manufacturers are also concerned to bring up the manufacturer.
Only 40 million users of China Telecom, Unicom, move the little one billion can not come to China Telecom CDMA how to do if, GSM how to do he thought, Netcom would like to focus on GSM, now he was smug, he would design how to do it. Leaders have lofty aspirations, I can not to be victorious, this story has not always won big small companies.
The manufacturer also benefits by restructuring, such as CITIC, Huawei, ICT tester such a large positive benefit. Also you do get up 3G mobile phones, handset manufacturers, mobile phone production, our country now face this difficulty, where to do so, a file can get high profits higher. 3G and 2G are the biggest difference is, 2G general purpose is to call, you see pictures, watch video expensive. 3G is for you Man, your phone will see the opposite, many young people are like, this value-added benefits of manufacturing in the end is there. There are a variety of services such as e-commerce has, it is not software developers to take advantage of it? Content providers have taken advantage of the State Council in 2008 also issued Document No. 1, some things to allow you to use his image signal, and these people can drive. I think in the present circumstances, but also to information and communication industry the opportunity to develop all these years they are mainly in the pressure of its airtime, press its roaming charges, get a lot of money, he do not take communication to, and now you re-give you a license to see your new broom sweeps clean, all three of the nine fire, this fire is not burning his own, I feel that this restructuring is not only to the information industry, including the Internet is good SP because we all have access. Of course, the user should first get to enjoy a high contribution to the second user is higher. I am now much less communication costs, and income over the past month, I said I was spending most communications, how it go down now, with prices the way that it can not. I provide you with multimedia services, you use the car I gave you the GPS service, I give you a meal you provide restaurant services, you spend it the fifth straight back to the original tariff and you still satisfied, why? I enjoy the service more. I buy a notebook like the past, I 10 000 buy a notebook, but after two years, I have 10 000 buy a notebook, but feature more. Restructuring and 3G license issued several departments I think the State should take heart feel the information and communications industries.
The industry I wrote an article, the information industry were a little tired, in fact, behind these words there is a tired and some departments are still lower income. Your information industry is the number of messages you dry day, 8 hours to complete you can do, you never can not 8 hours. Saturday Sunday is that you own it? Has never been, we did, why the information industry is not good to rise, why not increase returns, this wrong. Let us think about what changes in the fastest around, something you get better service, more high-quality, cheaper prices, there is only one industry, information industry. Others are not in the CPI is rising up, living in the rose.
Moderator: This is a landmark on the information industry.
SONG Jun-de: We have to look at several major carriers are able to seize this opportunity, China's information industry will step forward one step. We Bie several years, five or six years ago, we discussed the 3G discussed, the discussion made so many years before the gun.
Moderator: Finally, we discuss an old topic, the 3G is a lot of money to foreign equipment opportunities, how do you see this? This time we gave them a license is not a great opportunity to make money?
SONG Jun-de: From my point of view, several major standard, TD certainly our manufacturers in China of occupying a relatively high standard of CITIC, a unique once took 50%, TD is open to a joint venture, a wholly-owned, and I see most of the manufacturers in China, other countries took some knowledge of the royalties go back, but we look at CITIC, Huawei, we played badly hit countries, Ericsson, Huawei, they are afraid, afraid of CITIC. Ago in a foreign country, but now, back to China to fight a dozen. We Huawei, the Centre in India, in South Africa has built a lot of research, whether we do not agree with some people saying the economic integration, but by network, by the world economy through WTO really connected. WTO when we signed some say, that signed would be finished, hit the foreign markets in China, we look into the colony. What are the benefits now WTO something we fight in the past, certainly brought in some foreign countries, the three ministries issued three licenses is confidence that it is now open just after the completion of the restructuring of three licenses to hair, said this ambitious, There are estimates that calculation, in the end this thing is not to our benefit the development of China's national economy. I say some leaders of the Chinese information industry's confidence in the future.
Moderator: Professor Song is very grateful guest Sina chat, because of the time to talk with us here today is over.
SONG Jun-de: you friends Hello, everybody, anyway, I say, these represent my own point of view, but every time I say I want another year, another two years, another three or five years to see if I said not been proved correct, but I have this confidence.
Moderator: I have a dialogue with you many times. Think you really have a view point, but who are not meet demand.
SONG Jun-de: Everyone has limitations, according to my knowledge to you one to judge, in a few years we see online, it is wrong we criticize. I look forward to China's information and communications industry to reach the era of great development, I think people who work in this area hope everyone was heading for the day, the Government has given a good start.
Moderator: Thank you Professor Song Sina guest chat, also thanked the concern of the majority of users, goodbye.
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